So You Want to Try the RV Lifestyle

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My cousin texted me and wanted some ideas on things to see during a trip from Kentucky to California this summer. They plan to purchase a used travel trailer. With a list of "must see" sights and "off the beaten path" photo ops to capture they want to take a road trip with their two sons to see if the RV vacationing lifestyle is for them.

This blog consists of my random ponderings based on my experiences.

Jul 6, 2012 Fri 5:54:50 PM PDT Altitude: 2522 ft Camera: Nikon D90Display on Google Map
An old school house on US2 in eastern Washington



A Road Trip is Not a Cruise


The RV lifestyle is not for everyone. Some folks like to rush to a destination and then lay on the beach for a week. Or take a cruise. Or spend a week at Disney World. Some buy an RV and park it permanently at a lake or beach. Some never take their RV out of state. And some like to take the "Great American Road Trip." Everyone has their own preferred style of vacationing. My cousin is planning a road trip.

I am a road trip kind of guy. My wife and I get restless after two nights in the same place. A road trip is not a leisurely vacation. You may need a vacation to recover from your vacation. The adventure is in the trip, not the destination. Every day you wake up wondering what you will see that day. What is around the next curve? What interesting people will we meet? We almost never reserve campgrounds. It is more fun to let the day unwind without a plan.

Jun 23, 2011 Thu 7:30:11 PM MDT Altitude: 5851 ft Camera: Nikon D90Display on Google Map
We wanted to get to the North Rim of the Grand Canyon on this day so we were driving late in the day but the late day sun made the Vermilion Cliffs National Monument look very nice.
Tucker Riley

You will spend a lot time with your family in a space that is probably smaller than your living room. Everyone needs to be a little "forgiving." Again, this type of vacation is not for everyone. But with a sense of adventure it can create memories that will last a lifetime and grow more colorful with each retelling.

Jun 10, 2004 Thu 5:20:17 PM MDT Altitude: 3851 ft Camera: Olympus C3000ZDisplay on Google Map
Near the Little Bighorn Battlefield National Monument. We drove around a huge thunder storm that caused a tornado in Sheridan, WY not far from here. The other half of the sky was clear and sunny.
Cory, William F., Bradley Taylor

My cousin understands this as he is getting a used travel trailer for this trip to determine if this type of vacation works for his family. But he is already talking about seeing the "Largest Ball of Twine in the World" in Kansas and other photo ops, so they are off to a great start.

Jul 6, 2011 Wed 3:27:46 PM CDT Altitude: 1488 ft Camera: Nikon D90Display on Google Map
Tucker Riley, Questie



So You Want to Buy a Used RV


Most of the internals of an RV are made by one or two companies and are actually pretty sturdy. You will rarely have trouble with the fridge, furnace, air conditioning, water pump, water heater, stove, etc. Check them all of course, but if they are working they will most likely continue to work. All RVs regardless of brand will contain the same internals. The weakness of an RV is the quality of construction and the suspension and tires.

Water is the number one enemy of an RV. Climb on the roof and give it a visual inspection. It will be covered with a sheet of rubber with gobs of caulk everywhere. Check all the seams. Has there been a major repair? If you ever add caulk, do not use silicone. Get the self leveling sealant made for rubber roofs.

On the inside open every cabinet door and look along the back walls. Do you smell mold? Run your hands along cabinet bottoms and walls checking for warping caused by moisture. Look under the beds. Look under the couch and sink where the exterior wall meets the floor. Look in the corners of the storage area. Any sign of water damage is a big red flag. It may not be a deal breaker but be very careful.

On the outside sight down the exterior sides. Are there any bubbles in the sidewalls? Check closely around the windows and any vents. Leaks often start here. A leak in the side walls can cause delamination and there really is no fix once that happens other than a trip to the factory to replace the wall.

If you find no water problems, check out the suspension. That is the weakest component on any modern RV. Your average farm wagon has better suspension. Do not start your road trip without inspecting these parts. If everything is original equipment you most likely have problems. The spring shackles are soft steel about 1/8" thick. They will last about 10,000 miles. See my experiences here and here. Check the spring hangers for cracks. Check for broken springs. Remove all wheels, check the brakes and replace the grease seals. You are almost guaranteed to have one or more brake shoes soaked in grease.

If the tires are the originals, they will be "China Bomb" special ST tires. Some people have no problems with them but many do. When one explodes it will cause on average about $3,000 of damage because RVs have no metal in the wheel well. The exploding tire will take out the black polyester type material under the RV along with insulation, the plastic wheel skirt and some plumbing depending on which side blows. Collect as many of the tire pieces as you can as the Chinese company will often reimbursement you for some of the damage. Apparently it is cheaper to reimburse damages than to make a quality tire.

The gross weight capacity of your RV will be either the axle rating or the tire weight rating plus the tongue weight. In other words if you load your RV to its weight rating, either your tires or your axle will be at their rated maximum. Also the springs are matched to the axle so if the axle is at its maximum the springs will be also. So make sure your RV has a cargo carrying capacity of at least 2,000 pounds or so. There should be a yellow sticker on the inside of the screen door with the capacity for that RV. In older RVs it may be on the inside of a cabinet door. There will also be a sticker on the front, road side exterior wall with the GVWR of the unit. Pay close attention to weight ratings. Water is 8 lbs per gallon. It does not take long to add 1,000 lbs of weight to an RV.

On your first trip, while fully loaded, stop at a Flying J truck stop and weigh your rig. I think it currently cost $12. You will get three weights. Front truck axle, rear truck axle and trailer axles. This will put your mind at ease or determine you have a problem. Also if the "China Bombs" explode, the weight receipt helps to prove you were not overloading the tires.

Jan 4, 2015 Sun 11:19:34 AM EST

If you decide to stay in the RV lifestyle, replace the ST tires with LT load range E tires. I like Michelins. Install a wet bolt kit with larger shackles. This will solve most of your problems. Just check the brakes once a year and visually check the springs.


What Do I Need in my RV


Many campgrounds are not level. Have a few 2x6 boards cut in one foot lengths to go under the tires for leveling. Buy a cheap bottle jack for replacing the "China Bomb" tire when it explodes. Take enough tools to make minor repairs. I buy boxes of disposable gloves from Harbor Freight to use when dumping the tanks.

We buy large quantities of plates and plastic spoons and forks from someplace like Sam's Club. Who wants to wash dishes while on vacation? The gas oven is small so it tends to burn the bottom of breads or biscuits. A small toaster oven works better. A crock pot is great especially if you plan to be in one campground for two nights.

If you have a generator for the back of your truck, that opens up lots of possibilities. The "Great American Road Trip" usually starts with 2-3 days of hard driving and ends the same way. WalMarts are very RV friendly. If you have a generator you can pull into a WalMart (if there is no local ordinance against it) or Flying J (just ask the desk where they would like you to park) and get a few hours of sleep without the hassles of finding a campground. The generator gives you air conditioning, TV and power for toys. And if you set it up to power the RV on the road you can run that crock pot all day long and have air conditioning when you stop for lunch.


Other Tips


In the truck, get a cheap 12v to 120v AC converter. If you have a laptop with a DVD player take it and power it from the converter. Let the boys rent movies from Redbox. There is something very fun about renting a Redbox movie in Kansas and returning it the next day in Colorado.

Have the boys keep a journal and encourage them to make entries every day. It could be the things they see that day, the weather, where you camped, distance traveled, even fuel stops and miles per gallon you are getting. If they like the RV road trip lifestyle they will someday take their kids to the same places. Their kids will enjoy reading the journals. While in Yellowstone National Park in 2004 my Dad pointed out my oldest son, Bradley, was 10 years old. I was 10 years old when I first visited Yellowstone National Park with Mom and Dad in 1969.

I kept a journal and my folks still occasionally call me to check it because they can't agree about something we did on one of our trips a long time ago.

1971 Apr

Take lots of photos. With your family. Twenty years from now a photo of the Grand Canyon will be nice but there are millions of those on the internet. Only you will have photos of your family at the canyon and those will be precious to you. Also take photos of your camper in scenic locations.

Camp once at a high elevation and look at the stars. For that "Largest Ball of Twine" and other photo ops check out the phone app Roadtrippers and the website RoadSideAmerica. For campgrounds we like the phone app "Camp & RV" by Allstays.

Find an online RV forum for your specific brand of RV and ask questions. The folks on those forums are friendly and helpful. If you plan to visit more than a couple of national parks, just get the annual pass. It is cheaper.

Get photos of your family and signs. Especially those with high elevations or small populations.

Jun 27, 2012 Wed 4:58:41 PM MDT Altitude: 7910 ft Camera: Nikon D90Display on Google Map
Small town on I-80 in south east Wyoming.
Laurie
Jul 11, 2012 Wed 10:06:38 AM MDT Altitude: 3680 ft Camera: Nikon D90Display on Google Map
Near Devils Tower in north east Wyoming.
Tucker Riley, Laurie
Start some camping traditions. I have some flannel shirts with over 100,000 miles on them. They stay in the camper. Keep track of the mileage you put on the RV for maintenance reasons and just to see how many miles you travel over the years. Check out good times on the road. I have some stats in that post. I'll summarize here:

1998 Aerolite Travel Trailer24,820 miles24 trips94 nights
2002 Forest River Wildcat71,499 miles83 trips310 nights
2011 Keystone Copper Canyon21,700 miles13 trips77 nights
2014 Keystone 325SRX Cougar Toy Hauler31,119 miles (As of Aug 2018)
That is 149,138 miles beginning in 2000 through Aug 2018


Places to See


My cousin asked for some things to consider seeing. They want to take I-70 through Denver and the tunnel. From there their top three priorities are Yosemite, Sequoia National Park and the South Rim of the Grand Canyon.

First, that is going to be a lot of driving for two weeks. Let's start in Colorado. If you like trains, there is a neat train ride in Georgetown, the Georgetown Loop Railroad.




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Jun 7, 2000 Wed
The Georgetown Loop Railroad near Idaho Springs, CO.
William F., Wanda, Bradley Taylor, Tucker Riley
Jun 7, 2000 Wed 9:06:09 AM MDTDisplay on Google Map
The Georgetown Loop Railroad near Idaho Springs, CO.
Bradley Taylor, William F., Tucker Riley
You could then stay on I-70 and drop in on Moab, Utah. Arches National Park is fun and has lots of short hikes. We once rented 3 ATVs along with a trailer for 24 hours for a reasonable price and had a lot of fun in Moab.

Return to I-40 and enjoy over 100 miles with no services west of Green River. At Salina take US-50 and stop at Great Basin National Park just inside Nevada. Do some hiking in the snow and try to see the glacier. From there take US-6 to Lee Vining, California or stay on US-50 to experience the "Loneliest Road in America" into Carson City and Lake Tahoe, then take US-395 south to Lee Vining.

You said you want to enter Yosemite from the west and see Sequoia National Park. I would recommend you camp in Lee Vining and take a long day trip to Yosemite. Then go to the Mariposa Grove to see some redwoods instead of trying to include Sequoia National Park. My boys and I did this in 2007. You are trying to fit a lot of things into two weeks. This will save you some time and the drive south the next day on US-395 from Lee Vining is beautiful.

Enter Death Valley from the west early in the day if you can. If you want to hike to a water fall in Death Valley check out our experience and if you want a love story, read about the camera we found here and the two years we spent finding the owner.

Jun 29, 2007 Fri 9:24:39 AM PDT Altitude: 8152 ft Camera: Fuji FinePix S6000fdDisplay on Google Map
State road 120 near the eastern entrance to Yosemite National Park.
Bradley Taylor, Tucker Riley
Jun 29, 2007 Fri 12:53:51 PM PDT Altitude: 5637 ft Camera: Fuji FinePix S6000fdDisplay on Google Map
The California Tunnel Tree in the Mariposa Grove of Giant Sequoia trees in Yosemite National Park. The hole was cut in 1895 for stagecoaches.
Tucker Riley, Bradley Taylor

In Death Valley walk out on the Mesquite Flat Sand Dunes. I much prefer the northern rim of the Grand Canyon. From Death Valley you could get on I-15 in Las Vegas, go up to St. George and go to the north rim via Jacob Lake. Plan to see the sun rise and experience the cool morning temperatures at the canyon. Then on to the Vermilion Cliffs National Monument. Get over to US-160 to US-163 through Monument Valley and Mexican Hat to 4 corners.

Jun 24, 2011 Fri 6:30:03 AM MST Altitude: 8595 ft Camera: Nikon D90Display on Google Map
We got up at 4:30AM to see the sun rise on the north rim of the Grand Canyon. The lowest temperature was 31 degrees. 36 hours later we would experience 114 degrees in Death Valley.

If you prefer the south rim of the Grand Canyon, I would exit the south side of Death Valley. This allows you to visit Badwater Basin at 282 feet below sea level.

Jul 1, 2007 Sun 8:39:36 AM PDT Altitude: -236 ft Camera: Fuji FinePix S6000fdDisplay on Google Map
Badwater, Death Valley.
Tucker Riley, Bobby
Work your way over to I-40. Consider going to Oatman, Arizona as a side trip if the road is paved. Check Google Street View. If you like Route 66 go north from Kingman to Peach Springs and reconnect with I-40 at Seligman, Arizona. Radiator Springs in the animated movie "Cars" was based on the town of Peach Springs. My brother and I will be in the area in early July this year.

Then I-40 to Flagstaff to the Grand Canyon. If you are determined to see 4 corners, from the Grand Canyon take US-160 but exit north on US-163 and go through Monument Valley and Mexican Hat on the way to 4 corners. Be sure to get a "Forrest Gump" photo in Monument Valley. The video below contains the spot where Forrest Gump stopped running and believe it or not, the spot is labeled on Google Maps.




Video


Jun 23, 2011 Thu
US 163 Scenic Road, Monument Valley

If you want to skip Monument Valley and 4 corners, camp in Flagstaff and take a day trip to the Grand Canyon. Sedona is just south of Flagstaff and we plan to visit there this summer. East of Flagstaff on I-40 you can check out the Meteor Crater (pricey) then you must stop in Winslow and get a photo "Standin' on the Corner".

Jul 3, 2007 Tue 11:22:17 AM MST Altitude: 4869 ft Camera: Fuji FinePix S6000fdDisplay on Google Map
Winslow, Arizona.
Bradley Taylor

Petrified Forest National Park is a must see and is adjacent to I-40. Canyon de Chelly National Park is nice but that is off your route. We will be there this summer also. We camped in Holbrook once and there was a Navajo dance in the public square.

If you stay on I-40 you can take I-25 to Santa Fe which is a picturesque town. If you are a WWII buff Los Alamos is just north of there where the atomic bomb was developed.

Jun 21, 2011 Tue 8:12:41 PM MDT Altitude: 6982 ft Camera: Nikon D90Display on Google Map
Santa Fe, NM

There are lots of Route 66 stuff on I-40 since I-40 basically replaced Route 66 in this area. There are still original sections of the road. If you go thru Amarillo stop at the Cadillac Ranch.

Jun 21, 2011 Tue 10:06:56 AM CDT Altitude: 3747 ft Camera: Nikon D90Display on Google Map
Cadilac Ranch in Amarilo TX
Laurie, Bobby

Last year I made some way points on a map for some odd stuff to visit the next time I am in the South West. Check it out here.

I have a map with almost every campground I have ever visited. For the early days I just have an address or vague description. But for the last 12 years or so I have GPS coordinates and comments about how I liked the campground. See that map here.

Cousin, if you have any questions just email. I hope this has given you some things to consider.

Jun 21, 2011 Tue 12:35:50 PM MDT Altitude: 4547 ft Camera: Nikon D90Display on Google Map
Route 66
Tucker Riley
Jul 6, 2012 Fri 5:13:02 PM PDT Altitude: 2372 ft Camera: Nikon D90Display on Google Map
US 2 in the state of Washington.
Jun 9, 2004 Wed 10:39:00 AM MDT Altitude: 7273 ft Camera: Olympus C3000ZDisplay on Google Map
Northern Yellowstone Park.
William F.
Jul 2, 2007 Mon 4:55:11 PM MST Altitude: 4033 ft Camera: Fuji FinePix S6000fdDisplay on Google Map
Vermilion Cliffs National Monument on US 89 in northern Arizona.
Bradley Taylor, Tucker Riley
Jun 22, 2011 Wed 1:56:19 PM MDT Altitude: 9006 ft Camera: Nikon D90Display on Google Map
On NM route 4 near Los Alamos, NM. We stopped here for lunch.
Jun 23, 2011 Thu 3:16:22 PM MDT Altitude: 4258 ft Camera: Nikon D90Display on Google Map
South east Utah on Mexican Hat Rock Road.
Laurie
Jun 23, 2011 Thu 4:10:56 PM MDT Altitude: 5466 ft Camera: Nikon D90Display on Google Map
Jun 23, 2011 Thu 7:24:37 PM MDT Altitude: 6028 ft Camera: Nikon D90Display on Google Map
We wanted to get to the North Rim of the Grand Canyon on this day so we were driving late in the day but the late day sun made the Vermilion Cliffs National Monument look very nice.
Laurie
Jun 23, 2011 Thu 7:33:12 PM MST Altitude: 5853 ft Camera: Nikon D90Display on Google Map
We wanted to get to the North Rim of the Grand Canyon on this day so we were driving late in the day but the late day sun made the Vermilion Cliffs National Monument look very nice.
Laurie, Bradley Taylor, Tucker Riley
Jun 26, 2011 Sun 1:57:32 PM PDT Altitude: 3738 ft Camera: Nikon D90Display on Google Map
These mountains had no snow when we were here in 2007.
Jun 28, 2011 Tue 5:31:55 PM PDT Altitude: 6116 ft Camera: Nikon D90Display on Google Map
US 50 in northern Nevada. "The Loneliest Road in America"
Jun 30, 2011 Thu 11:31:16 AM MDT Altitude: 4586 ft Camera: Nikon D90Display on Google Map
Hinckley, UT
Jun 27, 2012 Wed 5:13:11 PM MDT Altitude: 8054 ft Camera: Nikon D90Display on Google Map
Tree rock on I-80 near Laramie, Wyoming. This tree was here in 1867 when the railroad came through and it is said that locomotive firemen often stopped their trains to give the tree some water from their engines. This type of tree can live as long as 2,000 years.
Jul 1, 2012 Sun 2:58:01 PM PDT Altitude: 7379 ft Camera: Canon A640Display on Google Map
Lassen Volcanic National Park. A very neat place.
Bobby, Tucker Riley
Jul 1, 2012 Sun 3:27:44 PM PDT Altitude: 8240 ft Camera: Nikon D90Display on Google Map
Lassen Volcanic National Park. A very neat place.
Laurie, Bobby
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